1. Jon Capistrano
    22nd September 2016 @ 8:34 am

    OOhhhhh, i hope this is true. and it would be fun if it’s geared and has a bigger engine

  2. Oz_Scoot
    22nd September 2016 @ 9:55 am

    4T side mount engines have been available for either manual or auto transmissions for awhile now.
    It has already been reported the LML 2T engine would be discontinued in the UK, if Piaggio/Vespa make their own version under their own license – what will the impact be to LML / Stella (in the USA) ?

    • Sticky
      22nd September 2016 @ 10:19 am

      The sidemount 4-stroke engines by LML don’t fit straight into a genuine Vespa PX chassis. The LML chassis is externally visually similar but many differences exist underneath. I reckon it’s a safe bet that whatever Piaggio do will be their own engine design and not from LML. At the moment LML are not manufacturing any scooters as the factory is closed for restructuring. If they have not made the investment to get their models ready for Euro-4 then they will not have anything to sell in Europe at all from next year. Some rumours are that LML plan to concentrate instead on the Indian 3-wheeler market rather than export. We’ll see.

  3. joaosoares
    22nd September 2016 @ 10:11 am

    Yeah, I’ve been hearing about this 4-stroke PX since at least 2011 (just google “PX 4 stroke”)… I’ll believe it when I see it.

    • Sticky
      22nd September 2016 @ 10:22 am

      So have we, but Euro 4 is the signal that marks the end of the PX 2-stroke, so if Piaggio want to continue with a side-engine scooter then 4-stroke is the only choice. Like the story says though, it could be a 2018 model launched in 2017. That would give time to clear all the old Euro-3 stock.

      • joaosoares
        22nd September 2016 @ 12:44 pm

        What I’m questioning is Piaggio’s enthusiasm about a 4-stroke PX and their commitment to actually build it…

        • Sticky
          22nd September 2016 @ 5:06 pm

          We’ll see how it pans out.

        • ricardolourizela
          24th May 2017 @ 2:17 pm

          Piaggio’s enthusiasm about a 4-stroke PX and their commitment to actually build it are nil. It’s not going to happen. Because that would actually be a wise financial decision (such a scooter would sell like hotcakes in this day and age) and that would tarnish the famous Italian reputation of poor strategic management.

  4. Mark Hodson
    28th September 2016 @ 7:32 pm

    It would be far more simple to produce a DI 2 stroke version. Piaggio already make a 50cc motor so they have the technology.

    • Sticky
      28th September 2016 @ 7:43 pm

      It would, and I wish they’d do it, but Piaggio’ve always told us that market response to D.I was poor after reliability problems people found with the Aprilia Ditech ruined the reputation of Orbital tech on scooters.

  5. Theraphim Hebraeorum
    22nd November 2016 @ 4:17 pm

    Nothing emerged at EICMA did it?

    Just think how much the injected, catalysed, linked brake/ABS bullshit will add to the cost of such a machine.

    Now Euro 4 has seen off LML, the niche market competition is gone. Piaggio do not need to produce this Unicorn. They have produced millions of geared scoots already, enough to supply the ever decreasing pool of geared enthusiasts until they/we all ride off into the eternal sunset.

    Holy Grail questers and Lourdes miracle seekers would have better luck!

    Now a Vespa Rally shaped hover scooter would be nice…

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