1. Nigel Beevers
    27th January 2017 @ 10:44 am

    people keep voting for these power hungry, lefty, green zealots, instead of dragging them into the streets and knocking shyte out of them.

  2. Marty ULC
    27th January 2017 @ 1:15 pm

    Have you had a look at the crit air website?
    It’s going to be mental. They’re proposing different rules for different zones depending on what the bloody weather is FFS!

    “Currently a French environmental zone ZCR can be entered by means of all 6 Crit’Air categories. But this will change in the course of the coming years. The responsible local authority will restrict the categories, either by means of more additional labels to Crit’Air or by means of messages in the media where it will be announced what category has the permission to enter the environmental zone. It is conceivable, for instance, that under bad weather conditions only categories 0-4 would be allowed to enter Paris from Monday to Friday in a period between 8 am to 8 pm which would mean that the grey Crit’Air Vignette had to stay outside – a rule being published beforehand by the media.”

    Are they planning massive park and rides on the outskirts of these zones in case it gets a bit inclement after you’ve left for work?

    • Sticky
      27th January 2017 @ 5:09 pm

      Quite a while ago in Italy they made a system where you could only drive into a city centre if you had an even number ending to your no plate on certain days and even numbers on other days. This was to reduce pollution in places like Cesena. The result was lots of vehicles having numberplates swapped every day. What use is a commuter vehicle if you can’t commute on it every day you need to get to work? Who thinks up these stupid rules?

  3. Ivor Burit
    27th January 2017 @ 1:45 pm

    OK, I`m both a 2 wheeled rider and car driver, my 25 year old derv burning landrover discovery is currently allowed into the M25 as it a 7 seater (sometimes) but for how long I dont know.
    My 2 wheels are a Piaggio X9 evolution with its euro 3 engine, as I`m now both old & disabled (sad but it comes to all)
    Currently, alternative fueled vehicles are allowed into london if they are certified & is logged on via its vehicles V5c docs into TFL website as FREE each working day….
    (are you seeing where I`m going with this)
    IF, if LPG systems can be retrofitted to 4 stroke older 2 wheelers would that satisfy the limits of new legislation I wonder, but doubt whether a LPG converted 2 stroke can be achieved ?
    But then to counter this –
    cheap chinese made bikes can and will be made to suit most emissions rulings i guess if only to appease legislators in tightly controlled countries, bikes that look a bit ugly, are a bit gutless, but are legal…..
    OR will they make retro styled Px & Li/Tv styled scooters…………..
    Oh but they already do that…………SO, are we panicking too much now ??
    but not yet LPG..yet….or hydrogen even…??
    your thoughts on my 69 years old ramblings please..

    (PS – wonder what they think of my 25 year old landrovers exhaust when I run it on NON fossil fuel, but on tescos finest veggie cooking oil)……………..chips anyone………….lol….

  4. Nigel Beevers
    27th January 2017 @ 10:11 pm

    will councils ban dirty derv buses owned by themselves? diesel trains. farting in a built up area?

  5. Theraphim Hebraeorum
    28th January 2017 @ 12:37 am

    Told ya! Others poopood it…now I poopoo their poopoo!

    Saw this coming many moons ago. If people actually bothered to find out what these unelected Brussels Sprouts are up to more people would have voted out of this control freak super-authoritarianmegastate sooner! Too late for us now.

    Buy a classic status scoot that does not require an MOT/Tax ..58 is it? As all those rich feckers who make up these laws have nice collections of vintage classic cars that they will want to keep on the road. Of course you don’t mean my 53 Bentley and the Rolls do you old boy? No, of course not old chap! Bah 🙁

    • Sticky
      28th January 2017 @ 12:50 pm

      No MOT needed for pre-1960

    • Slugger O Toole
      29th January 2017 @ 6:29 pm

      @ Theraphim Hebraeorum – the pub bore – ‘Told ya!’.
      In your one eyed, pig headed vision of the world is the honorable and trustworthy UK government campaigning on behalf of dirty engines while the evil Europeans plot to ruin the fun of the proles?
      Your posts are so completely biased and devoid of any balanced thought that I wonder if it even occurs to you how that approach renders your opinion irrelevant. All governments are under pressure to act on emissions, it’s not just the EU, this has been a long time coming. Maybe you can tell us what’s coming next?

  6. Theraphim Hebraeorum
    28th January 2017 @ 9:53 pm

    Thank you Sir…then my Tigress should do the job when they pull the plug. Just need to get it out from bowels of the garage and resurrect 😉

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